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also vice president joe biden wrapped up a two-day swing through florida, including a stop in ft. myers. president obama and mitt romney keeping a low profile today. they are prepping for wednesday's first presidential debate. we have learned that senator john kerry is going to play the role of mitt romney in the president's practice sessions. ohio senator rob portman is portraying the president in mitt romney's debate preps. >>> general motors is recalling more than 40,000 cars. it is concerned about fuel pump modules that could crack and cause a fire. the recall affects the 2007 to 2009 chevrolet cobalt and pontiac g5. gm will replace the fuel part for free. >>> yes, it is over officially. regular nfl refs will be back on the field tomorrow. the refs union formally ratify add new contract today. the nfl agreed to a deal with the union earlier this week which allowed those refs to return on thursday to a standing "o." critics said the performance of the replacement refs hurt the integrity of the game. >>> and winds ripping through the japanese island of okinawa is all from typhoo
also vice president joe biden wrapped up a two-day swing through florida, including a stop in ft. myers. president obama and mitt romney keeping a low profile today. they are prepping for wednesday's first presidential debate. we have learned that senator john kerry is going to play the role of mitt romney in the president's practice sessions. ohio senator rob portman is portraying the president in mitt romney's debate preps. >>> general motors is recalling more than 40,000 cars. it is...
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. >> reporter: when vice president biden was fighting for votes in florida the president was calling on congress to help homeowners. even as he defended his campaign's weak spot. >> so we're moving in the right direction but we're not there yet. >> reporter: a point up for debate as the presidential candidates get ready for their first showdown on wednesday. brian mooar, nbc news, washington. >>> the first day of the trial of pope benedict's former butler has come to a close. the man confessed to stealing confidential documents from the pope's apartment and leaking them to the press. nbc's claudia has the latest for us from rome. >> the most sensational trial to be held in the vatican for decades or centuries will be over in a week. today marks the start of the so-called trial, the one that sues the pope's former butler accused of stealing and leaking private documents from the pope's apartment through the italian media to expose what he said was the evil and corruption he saw all around catholic church. he was in court this morning looking tense. but he didn't show my ni emotion. >>
. >> reporter: when vice president biden was fighting for votes in florida the president was calling on congress to help homeowners. even as he defended his campaign's weak spot. >> so we're moving in the right direction but we're not there yet. >> reporter: a point up for debate as the presidential candidates get ready for their first showdown on wednesday. brian mooar, nbc news, washington. >>> the first day of the trial of pope benedict's former butler has come to...
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paul ryan has confirmed you will spend three days preparing for his debate with vice president joe biden. and new information in the arrest but -- the rest of a man charged with armed robbery and the beating of another man. the police chief says three men attacked others that night, apparently trying to get cell phones from each victim. none of these attacks were as severe as the victim who has undergone four brain surgery is. authorities have identified remains of a body found in a wooded area -- they are the remains of catherine bryant. the 33-year-old was reported missing by family members in 2006. foul play is suspected, but so far no other information is being released about this case. pepco customers can expect bigger bills from now on. protesters gathered to protest the proposed rate hike. that will be $2.50 added to every customer's bill every month. there was another vote to approve a new contract for another 1200 line workers and electricians. be workers rejected -- the workers rejected the contract. the city council is working on registration -- legislation to deal with cleanu
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vp joe biden and congressman paul ryan will face their showdown in danville, kentucky, and both sides will spend a lot of time preparing. meanwhile, president obama out on the campaign trail is showing some of the energy he didn't show at the first presidential debate in denver. >> now, my opponent is doing a little tap dance. at the debate the other night, he tried to wiggle out of stuff he has been saying for a year. doing like a -- it was like -- dancing with the stars. or maybe it was extreme makeover. debate edition. >> expect to see a more aggressive debater when the president and mitt romney face off again in a week and a half. for romney, the debate offered a chance to question the president's priorities. >> i thought it was a good chance for us to ask each other questions. i asked the president some of the questions i know people across america have wanted to ask him. i asked him for instance, why with 23 million americans that were looking for work and wanted a president to focus on the economy going, he instead spent his first three years fighting for obama care. >> by the
vp joe biden and congressman paul ryan will face their showdown in danville, kentucky, and both sides will spend a lot of time preparing. meanwhile, president obama out on the campaign trail is showing some of the energy he didn't show at the first presidential debate in denver. >> now, my opponent is doing a little tap dance. at the debate the other night, he tried to wiggle out of stuff he has been saying for a year. doing like a -- it was like -- dancing with the stars. or maybe it was...
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you have joe biden who is everyone's uncle, for better or worse. >> who knows what he'll say? >> who knows what he'll say? >> people should be watching. this is part of the great debate we're having in this country. every little bit matters. 30 days away. >> john, our thanks to you. abc news will have live coverage of the vice presidential debate on thursday at 9:00 p.m. with diane sawyer and george stephanopoulos. >>> a lot of other news breaking overnight. for that, as always, we go to mr. ron claiborne. good morning to you, sir. >> good morning, dan and bianna. breaking news from right here in new york city. five terror suspects extradited from britain are on new york soil. the men arrived in new york city early this morning. two will be in court later today in connecticut. the best known of them is abu hamza al masri. he is charged for trying to set up a terrorist training camp in oregon and helping to abduct hostages in 1998. >>> and we have breaking news out of the vatican, that scandal that rocked the vatican. pope benedict's butler convicted this morning of stealing th
you have joe biden who is everyone's uncle, for better or worse. >> who knows what he'll say? >> who knows what he'll say? >> people should be watching. this is part of the great debate we're having in this country. every little bit matters. 30 days away. >> john, our thanks to you. abc news will have live coverage of the vice presidential debate on thursday at 9:00 p.m. with diane sawyer and george stephanopoulos. >>> a lot of other news breaking overnight. for...
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what about the white house momentum could be lost because of joe biden obama biden want to raise taxes by $1 billion. guess what? yes we do we want to let the $1 trillion tax cut expire so the middle-class does not have to bear the burden. charles: mitt romney does not waste any time. >> is today the president said they do want to raise taxes. i don't want to raise them on any americans. i want to create good jobs. charles: mondex guess says the higher tax rates will lead to higher unemployment rates. with class warfare it does not matter the residual damage they're going with this. hoping the public cannot connect the dots? >> it will be interesting hallwood joe biden follows up. $1 trillion tax hike where we want to go. four years ago they told us no tax increases on 81 making less than $250,000. the economy is languishing worse where looking for more tax hikes and four years ago it was zero tax hikes? we have all been hit now we know how the middle-class and people will be affected. obamacare has at least seven pin tax hikes and 30 more on top of that. charles: we discover a couple
what about the white house momentum could be lost because of joe biden obama biden want to raise taxes by $1 billion. guess what? yes we do we want to let the $1 trillion tax cut expire so the middle-class does not have to bear the burden. charles: mitt romney does not waste any time. >> is today the president said they do want to raise taxes. i don't want to raise them on any americans. i want to create good jobs. charles: mondex guess says the higher tax rates will lead to higher...
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and so does joe biden against paul ryan in kentucky. >> it's all about the undecided voters. we have one more jobs report after this one. let's assume that the economy remains tepid and growing slowly. how much does a small drop in the unemployment rate help undecided voters? >> it creates a psychological barrier, breaking below 8%. and the issue is less the actual number than the trend. and the fact is we're moving in the right direction. not as fast as some folks would like. but it gives reason for hope. again, this is a statistical tallsman that tells people we're moving in the right direction. >> talk about the vice presidential debate coming up this thursday. is that likely to have any impact on the interior of this race? >> it could have one. if paul ryan wins this debate, that gives the romney camp a strong argument. mitt romney trying to move towards the center. there's going to be a lot of fireworks. you have a policy wonk in paul ryan. you have joe biden who is everyone's uncle, for better or worse. >> who knows what he'll say? >> every little bit matters. 30 days a
and so does joe biden against paul ryan in kentucky. >> it's all about the undecided voters. we have one more jobs report after this one. let's assume that the economy remains tepid and growing slowly. how much does a small drop in the unemployment rate help undecided voters? >> it creates a psychological barrier, breaking below 8%. and the issue is less the actual number than the trend. and the fact is we're moving in the right direction. not as fast as some folks would like. but...
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you have vice president joe biden, congressman paul ryan facing off. special coverage next thursday night. >>> just ahead, developing situation along the turkey-syria border. hours after an exchange of artillery fire, turkey's government holds an emergency session giving the green light for their troops to enter syria. ♪ ♪ introducing a stunning work of technology. ♪ introducing the entirely new lexus es. and the first ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. >>> emergency meetings are taking place in the international community to calm the tensions now between syria and turkey. this after five turks were killed in a home along the border there. victims of syrian artillery fire. the turks retaliated. this is the first time for them. killing several syrian soldiers. syria apologized today for hitting this turkish town and promised it would not happen again and then there was this. this is a tweet from a senior adviser to turkey's prime minister tweeting, quote, turkey has no interest in a war with syr syria. but turkey is capable of prot
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what are the similarities between ted olson and joe biden? >> they are are about the same age and ted olson is one really good debater. i hope joe biden shows more than ted olson because he is one of the best litigators in america. he has studied joe biden's tapes and records and style and ted as you know is one of the best litigators in america and pretty good at adapting to that. >> chris: have you got lines already prepared? attack lines? >> i'm not the a line guy. you know me well. i don't try to be anybody other than who i am. i believe in what i believe and i do what i do and i really believe in the policies we are. and at the end of the day i'm just going to go in there and be me. >> chris: i know you were hoping that joe biden makes one of his occasional gaffes. >> he doesn't do that in debaits. the gaffes he is kind of ledgentary for this. that is not in these situations. he is a disciplined person when speaks in these kind of situations and doesn't produce gaffes in these moments. those are when is off the cuff out given speech. >>
what are the similarities between ted olson and joe biden? >> they are are about the same age and ted olson is one really good debater. i hope joe biden shows more than ted olson because he is one of the best litigators in america. he has studied joe biden's tapes and records and style and ted as you know is one of the best litigators in america and pretty good at adapting to that. >> chris: have you got lines already prepared? attack lines? >> i'm not the a line guy. you know...
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. >> my advice is for joe biden. do not try to overwhen sate by going in there charging like the bulls of pam plo na in your debate. the only thing that may be worse than an overly passive barack obama is an overly aggressive joe biden. >> a bull in a china shop maybe. >> maybe. listen, if he's hard to control when he's on script, just imagine him unscripted in a debate. >> but the american people still like him. >> yeah. >> still like him. >> he's a likable guy. >> he's a regular joe. >> i think all republicans should love him because he is the gift that keeps on giving. >> so is paul ryan to some extent. go ahead, governor. >> it's been exactly one year since steve jobs passing. and my unsolicited advice today is for all of the mavericks in america, all the people that walked against the crowd, all the people who disagree with everybody in the room, everybody in a classroom that says i don't agree with what's going on here today, the mavericks have made america great. if we lose our mavericks, we lose our edge. thi
. >> my advice is for joe biden. do not try to overwhen sate by going in there charging like the bulls of pam plo na in your debate. the only thing that may be worse than an overly passive barack obama is an overly aggressive joe biden. >> a bull in a china shop maybe. >> maybe. listen, if he's hard to control when he's on script, just imagine him unscripted in a debate. >> but the american people still like him. >> yeah. >> still like him. >> he's a...
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i agree joe biden is a good debater, but he's also rusty. the last debate he had was against sarah palin. i think debating paul ryan and sarah palin are two completely different animals. and we haven't seen him do a lot of debating. so, you know, let's hope that he doesn't show up as rusty. if not, it will really build on republican momentum. and i think it will change the tone of this race. two debates where the republicans can really change it. >> a lot of the president's supporters didn't think he spent enough time preparing for this debate. romney spent a lot more time preparing than the president did. how much time between now and next thursday should the vice president spend? get rid of his campaigning and start practicing, practicing, practicing a debate against paul ryan? >> look, first of all, mitt romney's been in dress rehearsal for opening night on broadway for five years. there's no way you can take that much time off. but that aside he had a great debate performance and i don't want to downplay that. it was a good debate perfor
i agree joe biden is a good debater, but he's also rusty. the last debate he had was against sarah palin. i think debating paul ryan and sarah palin are two completely different animals. and we haven't seen him do a lot of debating. so, you know, let's hope that he doesn't show up as rusty. if not, it will really build on republican momentum. and i think it will change the tone of this race. two debates where the republicans can really change it. >> a lot of the president's supporters...
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and i would say the same thing about michigan where you see vice president biden visited a few weeks ago. so, our ads have been effective. and i think you'll see more of them going forward. big picture, i don't have any doubt that bill burton and his allies will have plenty of resources. in 2008 john mccain got outspent by $250 million. in 2004, george w. bush got outspent by $100 million. so the unions and the super pacs on the left and george soros funded super pacs, you're going to have plenty of money. i'm not worried about that. what i'm very excited about is having the resources to respond to your attacks. >> this is actually an important point. dan eagan has an important piece that folks should take a look at. between charlie and all the other groups out there, they've had a lot of money. whether that money has been strategically spent is the question. we've focused a laser on the middle class. there's a week in august where restore had an ad up about jobs, crossroads had an ad up about the debt. >> those are three republican-oriented super pacs. >> romney was advertising on w
and i would say the same thing about michigan where you see vice president biden visited a few weeks ago. so, our ads have been effective. and i think you'll see more of them going forward. big picture, i don't have any doubt that bill burton and his allies will have plenty of resources. in 2008 john mccain got outspent by $250 million. in 2004, george w. bush got outspent by $100 million. so the unions and the super pacs on the left and george soros funded super pacs, you're going to have...
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only the secretary, the vice president biden, president obama and a few economists know the results in advance. they get them 12 hours in advance with apparently no option to change them. what's more, at the moment the bls isn't run by a political appointee. a nonpolitical career civil servant is in charge. there are, we should point out, questions about how the bls gathers the raw data, legitimate questions, but also there are conspiracy theories. the washington examiner tweeting i don't think bls cooked numbers. i think a bunch of dems lied about getting jobs. that would have same effect. there's no evidence of that. there is however plenty of evidence that the bls tries to get it right. they are constantly revising months, quarters and sometimes entire years of data. sometimes it helps the incumbent president, sometimes not. with that in mind here's what conservative commentator and cnn contributor eric erickson tweeted today. quote, i don't think it is helpful or healthy to gop to argue both polling and job numbers are cooked. a lot of different opinions. in a moment we bring in al
only the secretary, the vice president biden, president obama and a few economists know the results in advance. they get them 12 hours in advance with apparently no option to change them. what's more, at the moment the bls isn't run by a political appointee. a nonpolitical career civil servant is in charge. there are, we should point out, questions about how the bls gathers the raw data, legitimate questions, but also there are conspiracy theories. the washington examiner tweeting i don't think...
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. >> we saw a gentler joe biden. it may be more aggressive than we saw this time than president obama last week. maybe he'll bring up the 47% and bain capital. stay tuned, suzanne. >> tell us a little bit about that debate that happened not with the real guys, but fox news's bill o'reilly and comedy central's john stewart facing off over the weekend. >> yeah. i think this was a little more entertaining than the one we saw last wednesday. these guys dent have the burden of running for president, but enough of me. let's take a listen. >> mike is here in the audience sxfshgs he asked this question. if you could see any american elected president, who would you choose and why? >> i would say clint eastwood have to be my guy. >> well, why don't we ask him. so, um -- what? tell them to do what? >> that was one of the lighter moments. you know, there was some serious parts to this debate. both gentlemen talked policy, and i think, though, the american viewers were the winners in that debate, suzanne. >> absolutely. thank yo
. >> we saw a gentler joe biden. it may be more aggressive than we saw this time than president obama last week. maybe he'll bring up the 47% and bain capital. stay tuned, suzanne. >> tell us a little bit about that debate that happened not with the real guys, but fox news's bill o'reilly and comedy central's john stewart facing off over the weekend. >> yeah. i think this was a little more entertaining than the one we saw last wednesday. these guys dent have the burden of...
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shared responsibility, we are all in this together society, you should vote for barack obama and joe biden. >> i was there. you electrified the place. they all say why do we have the 22nd amendment. why couldn't bill clinton run and be president for the next 30 years? >> we have it for good reasons. it's a hard job being president. you also have a vast array of people working for you. it worked, i think, well. i think we did the right thing to keep president roosevelt for a third term. when he died shortly after being elected to a fourth term and people didn't really know a full measure of his health challenges, the 22nd amendment passed. it's ironic at a time people thought the democrats had a lot in the white house. then it was, then after the last 50 years, the republicans had it more than the democrats. but, i think there's still an argument for saying that eight years, certainly eight years in a row is enough. you don't want this -- you don't want to run the risk of sclerosis in a democratic society. you don't want to give the idea that any country, particularly this one as big and di
shared responsibility, we are all in this together society, you should vote for barack obama and joe biden. >> i was there. you electrified the place. they all say why do we have the 22nd amendment. why couldn't bill clinton run and be president for the next 30 years? >> we have it for good reasons. it's a hard job being president. you also have a vast array of people working for you. it worked, i think, well. i think we did the right thing to keep president roosevelt for a third...
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vice president biden will do very, very well. he knows what has been going on. he is in touch with the american public, and i'm just hopeful mr. ryan will tell the truth. romney's former debate coach gave his opinion on how the next debate will go. i am sure vp biden got a call from the white house that said we didnt go after gov. romney as much so you have got to turn up the heat. i think both men will be very prepared. biden says he's ready. so all debates are tough but i'm looking forward to it. i really am. foreign and domestic policy issues both will be in play thursday night. it's the only vice presidential debate before the november 6th election. i'm cristina mutchler reporting >> chicago peace activist protested the 11th anniversary of the war in afghanistan today . the protesters marched from tribune tower to obama campaign headquarters. they called for an end to the war in afghanistan... and more money for jobs in the education and health care. nine organizations a co-sponsor today's anti-war protest >> coming up... something we haven't seen from nasa
vice president biden will do very, very well. he knows what has been going on. he is in touch with the american public, and i'm just hopeful mr. ryan will tell the truth. romney's former debate coach gave his opinion on how the next debate will go. i am sure vp biden got a call from the white house that said we didnt go after gov. romney as much so you have got to turn up the heat. i think both men will be very prepared. biden says he's ready. so all debates are tough but i'm looking forward to...
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too joe biden is talking about the record of the obama-biden administration saying they are buried. jamie: will the president have tee dress this tonight? will he have to talk about why the middle class was -- will he distance himself from his policies playing a role. >> he may have to put context into biden's statement. >> why is it that whenever this administration, whether it's the president or joe biden actually tells the truth. they tell you what's on their mind like the president saying that the private sector is doing fine or telling entrepreneurs like me that we didn't build our business. why is it when they tell the truth suddenly they are taken out of context. >> there you go again to quote one of our great republican presidents. you note context of that. >> the context was worse than what he said. he said you entrepreneurs put out your chest, you think you are so smart, but you didn't build it. that's the context. >> you left out what he was talking about before that and that was not the tone of his voice. you are not only misrepresenting -- you are myth representing the
too joe biden is talking about the record of the obama-biden administration saying they are buried. jamie: will the president have tee dress this tonight? will he have to talk about why the middle class was -- will he distance himself from his policies playing a role. >> he may have to put context into biden's statement. >> why is it that whenever this administration, whether it's the president or joe biden actually tells the truth. they tell you what's on their mind like the...
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>> there is and part of it is because there is a bias toward the obama/biden ticket. part of it is because i think everybody knows joe biden. is he a good guy. let me be very clear. i like joe biden. is he a good, decent man. i think people sort of say you know what? that's just joe. you have got to love the guy for being candid and honest. i will tell you what i do love, joe leads with his heart. i give him credit for that. it's kind of refreshing in politics who see somebody who has a heart. he speaks it. you may not agree with what he said. have you got to at least accept the fact that here is a guy who truly does, i think, connect to people. i give him that. >> he is learnly going to make the vice presidential debate upcoming. >> i'm looking forward to it. >> who isn't. >> he is goings to make it interesting. will he seem folksy as he can, joe biden and will that make paul ryan seem stiffer. >> the big challenge for paul ryan is to be able to connect with voters emotionally in the same way joe biden has a capacity to do. for all the talk about biden's gaffes and h
>> there is and part of it is because there is a bias toward the obama/biden ticket. part of it is because i think everybody knows joe biden. is he a good guy. let me be very clear. i like joe biden. is he a good, decent man. i think people sort of say you know what? that's just joe. you have got to love the guy for being candid and honest. i will tell you what i do love, joe leads with his heart. i give him credit for that. it's kind of refreshing in politics who see somebody who has a...
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channel in vice president joe biden right now. what was he trying to say obviously didn't come across as he clearly would like. >> well, what he was clearly trying to say and the obama campaign was quick to point this out is that what he was trying to say is that the middle class was buried urntd george w. bush and that's what started the problems for the middle class and that the obama administration has started to pull it out by its boot straps. and so the obama campaign just in case we didn't get that has a statement that says that the romney campaign is taking this entirely out of context. it's obviously in looking at the full transcript that joe biden was talking about the fact that the middle class was buried under failed bush policies. and of course they say romney/ryan would change all that. however, this is an opportunity, which the romney campaign is taking to say, you know what, we agree with you. the middle class has been buried and we're going to change that. imagine this as kind of the dry season in the west in the s
channel in vice president joe biden right now. what was he trying to say obviously didn't come across as he clearly would like. >> well, what he was clearly trying to say and the obama campaign was quick to point this out is that what he was trying to say is that the middle class was buried urntd george w. bush and that's what started the problems for the middle class and that the obama administration has started to pull it out by its boot straps. and so the obama campaign just in case we...
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if you go way back in history for joe biden that campaign ended. but in the early going in the spring and summer that year, he had a reputation for being a powerful performer for performing well that summer. but you know take that away. there was a lot of unfairness. he was a strong communicator and strong debater. >> look, folks, i know we all don't have access to governor romney's accountant. i thought last night when he said i would like to introduce my accountant to that. i would love to have his accountant. but look, we understand, someone ends up paying for all of this. >> crystal, joe biden has the touch with that sort of thing. he does and that is funny. and that helps. that is always helpful and the other thing that i would note from this performance in 2008 and also from this speech is how loyal he is. nothing is about him. it is about the president and the president's plans and an attack on governor romney. and at that time in 2008. i noticed that palin focused on her record and her family. it was me centered and i can see paul ryan walk
if you go way back in history for joe biden that campaign ended. but in the early going in the spring and summer that year, he had a reputation for being a powerful performer for performing well that summer. but you know take that away. there was a lot of unfairness. he was a strong communicator and strong debater. >> look, folks, i know we all don't have access to governor romney's accountant. i thought last night when he said i would like to introduce my accountant to that. i would love...
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joe biden and paul ryan. let me make a prediction. i think joe biden will verbally destroy paul ryan, and i think he will the salvation of barack obama. >> you want to bet? >> i tend to agree with you, piers. senator biden is someone who is a fire brand for sure. and one of the things that came out of this debate, we can all agree president obama did not bring his "a" game and romney had a good night it will take a lot more to undo what has taken two years to burn in voters' brains. >> biden is the champion of the middle class, and that's what we want to hear. >> look, i'm going to put myself out there i won't promise 12 million jobs. >> don't bet $10,000 either. >> well, i never do that, i'm not a betting lady, but i will bet a cocktail or two. >> the reason i think you're wrong -- i've watched the convention speeches and i thought joe biden, with the possibility of bill clinton, made the best speech. >> absolutely. he will bring it. >> and i think joe biden will destroy paul ryan. >> absolutely not. absolutely not. >> i think you're
joe biden and paul ryan. let me make a prediction. i think joe biden will verbally destroy paul ryan, and i think he will the salvation of barack obama. >> you want to bet? >> i tend to agree with you, piers. senator biden is someone who is a fire brand for sure. and one of the things that came out of this debate, we can all agree president obama did not bring his "a" game and romney had a good night it will take a lot more to undo what has taken two years to burn in...
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we want more biden as republicans. more biden. >> don't underestimate joe biden and his decades of serving washington and knowing washington. paul ryan, i wish you the best of luck. >> and joe biden is a great man and we wish him well, and we hope he keeps talking a lot. >> that's your "morning joe" political wrap. >> and you can catch joe and mika weekdays at 6:00 a.m. eastern. with more now, here's lester. >>> they mentioned the latest unemployment numbers. is the economy really recovering? we're here with audio look inside the numbers. help me understand this now. the actual number of jobs added in september was not a huge increase, but we still saw this drop of the overall rate to 7.8%. how does that work? >> two big things. first of all, 86,000 more jobs were added in july and august together than originally expected. august had those dismal statistics that made president obama look not so great in his recovery plan, but actually if those numbers turned out to be revised, 86,000 more jobs, that's going to give you
we want more biden as republicans. more biden. >> don't underestimate joe biden and his decades of serving washington and knowing washington. paul ryan, i wish you the best of luck. >> and joe biden is a great man and we wish him well, and we hope he keeps talking a lot. >> that's your "morning joe" political wrap. >> and you can catch joe and mika weekdays at 6:00 a.m. eastern. with more now, here's lester. >>> they mentioned the latest unemployment...
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. >> reporter: vice president biden said romney would hike middle class taxes. >> how they can justify raising tax on the middle class has been buried the last four years. >> reporter: republicans jumped on that. buried by obama? >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. that mean we need to stop digging by electing mitt romney the next president of the united states. >> reporter: that's the kind of zinger sure to be heard tomorrow night. doug, andrew and chris say they hope to hear a lot of substance, too. at debate number one in their battleground ate. a lot is on the line. doreen talked about the nbc news "wall street journal" poll. 38%. more than a third of voters saying this debate and the three to follow, one vice presidential work the more presidential, will be important or extremely important to their decision about who to vote for. live from denver, i'm steve handelsman, news4. >> thank you. >>> a freelance american journalist who disappeared in syria eight weeks ago is now seen in a video clip pos
. >> reporter: vice president biden said romney would hike middle class taxes. >> how they can justify raising tax on the middle class has been buried the last four years. >> reporter: republicans jumped on that. buried by obama? >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. that mean we need to stop digging by electing mitt romney the next president of the united states. >> reporter:...
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but biden is out preparing. i remember the debates in 2008s primary and presidential and after that, the vice presidential debate, joe biden does pretty well, right? >>guest: a lot of conservatives have been licking their chops since paul ryan announced as the running mate and could not wait, had the day circles saying it will be a bloodbath. i think paul ryan is a very able debater. he has great command of the facts particularly on economic issues. i expect a strong debate performance from him. the idea that it will be a totally lopsided bloodbath like we saw in denver, by the way, that could overstate it a little bit because at least, joe biden is going to come out more energized and engaged than the president was in denver. just the body language that the play some what to biden's advantage, even if he is sort of off the beaten trail as he so often is. >>eric: lets me push back, after the debate on wednesday night, where mitt romney seemed to -- can we pull up that poll? 72 percent of the people think that mi
but biden is out preparing. i remember the debates in 2008s primary and presidential and after that, the vice presidential debate, joe biden does pretty well, right? >>guest: a lot of conservatives have been licking their chops since paul ryan announced as the running mate and could not wait, had the day circles saying it will be a bloodbath. i think paul ryan is a very able debater. he has great command of the facts particularly on economic issues. i expect a strong debate performance...
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joe biden will use it in the debate. but ultimately the president believes he will win with negative because he doesn't have is a record to run on or defend. dagen: does mitt romney need to sit back and hope the president just makes some huge error at this point? >> i think he's got to keep doing what he's been doing which is to be as john said positive on the campaign trail, dagen, but also make it clear there's an alternative approach to failed policies. dagen: how do you think wednesday shakes out? what are the odds you putting on biden making a huge gaffe because that's the reason people will watch frankly. >> better than even odds that he will say something that he shouldn't say that will be a news item. and i think seriously i think this libya thing will be made an issue in that debate to set up the presidential debate next week. it will be about whether we purposely withdrew security out of libya before this attack, and that is a serious thing and a big blemish for obama and biden. dagen: what say you? >> i think
joe biden will use it in the debate. but ultimately the president believes he will win with negative because he doesn't have is a record to run on or defend. dagen: does mitt romney need to sit back and hope the president just makes some huge error at this point? >> i think he's got to keep doing what he's been doing which is to be as john said positive on the campaign trail, dagen, but also make it clear there's an alternative approach to failed policies. dagen: how do you think...
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>> you know the phrase we use, obama and biden want to raise taxes by $1 trillion. guess what? yes, we do in one regard. >> what exactly would a $1 trillion tax increase do to the economy? our reporter from the "wall street journal" finally, finally, someone in the obama administration admitting letting the bush tax cuts expire is a tax increase. right? >>guest: that is for sure. i don't know why the romney people don't let yes biden do all the talking for them because he makes compelling case against obama. this is the second or third gaffe just this week. we are talking about almost all of the increase on the backs of businesses. it is hard to understand how you create more jobs for this economy if you are putting or taking money out of the pockets of the businesses that create them. joe biden was saying we are proud of the fact we are socking it to the businesses and to the rich people. i find it somewhat offensive, actually. >> is there any way when you raise people's taxes by $1 trillion the middle class is unaffected? >>guest: it is interesting if you look at congressiona
>> you know the phrase we use, obama and biden want to raise taxes by $1 trillion. guess what? yes, we do in one regard. >> what exactly would a $1 trillion tax increase do to the economy? our reporter from the "wall street journal" finally, finally, someone in the obama administration admitting letting the bush tax cuts expire is a tax increase. right? >>guest: that is for sure. i don't know why the romney people don't let yes biden do all the talking for them...
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>> i would say this is about vice president biden. when he is himself he's more relatable, and more empathetiem. than romney is on purpose. the reason why he can make mistakes and still beloved, he's authentic. the most authentic person on the state has a big advantage. >> i think john's argument is exactly right. romney has to shake up this race, but the first few minutes, i will look who is more relaxed, who is looser? who connects more? style matters. >> everybody says president obama is an experienced debater. he has not debated since 2008, whereas romney has. >> he has been on a different kind of stage. and i think what mitt romney has to do tonight, to convince people that as ann romney was taking before, and by the way, she makes the case for mitt romney sometimes better than mitt romney does himself. she was saying he has been preparing his whole life to fix the economy, and that he can fix it, and they have to -- john, the word was trust. they have to trust him to make their lives better. >> do these guys get nervous? i mean,
>> i would say this is about vice president biden. when he is himself he's more relatable, and more empathetiem. than romney is on purpose. the reason why he can make mistakes and still beloved, he's authentic. the most authentic person on the state has a big advantage. >> i think john's argument is exactly right. romney has to shake up this race, but the first few minutes, i will look who is more relaxed, who is looser? who connects more? style matters. >> everybody says...
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so that's an area where you can imagine vice president biden working to press ryan on the details and the inconsistencies between the two of them. >> really interesting point. thanks so much. >>> coming up in our next half hour, round 2009 the presidential debate and how body language is so important in determining the winner. >>> breaking news from rome. there's a verdict in the trial of pop benedict's former butler. paolo gabriele was convicted this morning of leaking the pope's private papers to a wrournlist. he's been sentenced to 18 months in prison. >> reporter: good morning. well the prosecution wanted three year sentence, the defense asked for an acquittal. the butler said he acted on behalf of the catholic church and the pope. he sawed i don't feel like a thief. the verdict was a foregone conclusion. paolo gabriele confessed but he was caught. the unanswered question is whether he acted alone. during his testimony the butler insisted he had no accomplices but in a statement to the vatican police he named half a dozen people including priests and cardinals who he said suggeste
so that's an area where you can imagine vice president biden working to press ryan on the details and the inconsistencies between the two of them. >> really interesting point. thanks so much. >>> coming up in our next half hour, round 2009 the presidential debate and how body language is so important in determining the winner. >>> breaking news from rome. there's a verdict in the trial of pop benedict's former butler. paolo gabriele was convicted this morning of leaking...